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RE: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?

  • From: Church, Chuck
  • Date: Sat Jan 21 11:16:13 2006

	It seems a terrorist would benefit from obtaining fiber map
information from the source, rather than googling for outages, and
trying to find needles in haystacks.  How well are the internal
databases with fiber path details protected?  How hard would it be for
Al-Qaeda to social-engineer it's way into obtaining this stuff?  Though
personally, I don't think terrorists would target telecom
infrastructure.  A hundred simultaneous intentional fiber cuts could be
fixed in a day.  That's something that is forgotten within a year.
Bombings are not.  Fiber cuts resulting in phone and internet
connectivity loss aren't going to have the whole world turning to CNN.
Just us...  

Just my .02 though,

Chuck

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Martin Hannigan
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 8:28 AM
To: Wallace Keith
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?


> 
> 
> 	I for one have spoken in the past in favor of making the FCC
Outage Reports public again. If you want to deliberatley destroy fiber
infrastructure, you can gain more knowledge quicker by stepping outside
your door and gazing upon clearly marked routes, than by reading outage
reports.  Want to find a bldg where multiple carriers are housed? Read
the carrier hotel advertisements on the internet and in print or read
NANOG. 


Any idiot terrorist can walk up to a CO or colo and find the entrance
facilities (facility in more cases) and walk down the block looking for
manhole covers with company names or logo's. 

It doesn't matter if you cut it 10 miles or at the CO, it still takes 
the same amount of time to resplice it all. If it were at the CO it
would probably be done half-assed i.e. they throw a cable out the window
and splice that as a temporary fix not understanding just that, that it
does not matter where it's cut in most cases. There are methods and
methods and techniques to use to make the mitigation harder which I 
won't get into here, but anybody can knock out comm links with not a lot
of thought. FCC outages reports should be public because it keeps
carriers competing. We want that.

I don't know where this whole nonsense about not being able to find
metro loop fiber routes came from, but if a carrier refuses to at least
show
you the redundancy on a map then they probably don't have it. It's 
pretty simple. Ask to see the DLR, the metro loop map, and ask where
your cross connects are going to be made, if any. If you're going to 
a carrier hotel, you are likely aggregating closer than you think and
you want to know. If you are single homed, don't bother asking those
questions.

-M<




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