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Re: FW: Need some help: IDEAS, Inc.
- From: Jerry Dixon
- Date: Sat Sep 03 11:29:42 2005
Just an FYI, FBI and Secret Service are actively working these
as they are identified.
We definitely don't need more victims. If you don't feel
you're getting the response needed contact US CERT:
We'll make sure the information gets into the right hands. I
will say that I know many others on the list have been doing
a great job of identifying sites as well as reporting. SANS
ISC keep up the good work!
The information goes into Federal Law Enforcement who also
works with Local LE.
---- Original message ----
>Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 11:00:03 -0400
>From: "Marcus H. Sachs" <email@example.com>
>Subject: FW: Need some help: IDEAS, Inc.
>One of our incident handlers at the SANS Internet Storm
Center has been
>trying to chase down the bogus Katrina assistance web sites.
Below is a
>note of frustration he sent internally to us this morning. I
asked if I
>could cross-post over to NANOG to see if any of you could assist.
>Thanks in advance!
>Marcus H. Sachs, P.E. KJ4WA : firstname.lastname@example.org
>Director, SANS Internet Storm Center : isc.sans.org
>Washington D.C. USA (EDT, GMT-4) : +1 703 707 9293
>Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 9:32 AM
>Subject: Need some help: IDEAS, Inc.
>Last night, I pulled a new copy of the .com and .net zone
files down and did
>another grep for "katrina" domains. Obviously, there are now
>In the process of checking and cross-referencing, I found
that our friends
>"IDEAS, Inc" are a little more "involved" than we originally
>...and those are just the 18 I was able to find.
>Right now, there are two weak points to this particular house
>1) The first site listed,
"http://www.hurricanekatrinarelief.com" is what
>drives all of the others. Each of the other sites, loads the
first one in
>an IFRAME. That makes it easy for the bastards to update
them all. This
>site is hosted by Interland. Their final word on shutting
>down until they could prove they were legitimate was:
>"We have been advised by our legal department that the local
>should be contacted. The local authorities can submit a
subpoena to our
>legal department. We will be glad to comply to such a request."
>ie. "We have no balls. Go away".
>2) All of the other sites are hosted at the IP address
>Immediate upstream is "datasync.net/.com" and they are
located in (of
>course...) Louisiana. I've emailed them numerous times, and
tried to call
>("all circuits are busy..."), but they're probably running in
>mode right now.
>The IDEAS, Inc. scum MUST die, but I'm all out of ideas at
this point... the
>only other possibility that I can think of it to take them
out at the DNS
>level. All of the "slave" sites at 18.104.22.168 use
DirectNIC for their
>DNS... Anyone got sway with them?
>Frankly, gang, I'm at my wits end on this one...