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Re: {f,i,k} anycast instances deployed in India

  • From: Suresh Ramasubramanian
  • Date: Fri Aug 26 21:22:50 2005
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On 27/08/05, Steve Gibbard <> wrote:
> If we look at the Asia-Pacific region (for these purposes everything east
> of the UAE and West of the Americas), and then exclude Japan, Korea, and
> Singapore, countries that are undisputably part of the Internet core, what
> we've got are a bunch of F and I Roots, with a K Root in Brisbane and now
> a K Root somewhere in India.  Having root servers that are part of three
> different anycast clouds would make India somewhat special within its
> region.

The crying shame of it all is that most ISPs, for various reasons
[below]  don't advertise all their routes at nixi - and so exchange
piddly little amounts of traffic where they could exchange LOTS more. 
So, you'd find a whole lot of Indian traceroutes, even between two
local ISPs, go out through Singapore (or possibly Reach / NTT now, in
some cases), and/or PAIX

Having three anycast instances in a country is no damned use when the
nearest roots, network wise, are elsewhere.  If traffic stats from
those things are available, and are studied, I am reasonably sure we'd
get some interesting results.

But for now, having X number of anycast roots in the country is only
scoring brownie points in the i-governance debate.


Reasons include -

* don't have good people with bgp clue, only "senior network admins"
who ask Philip Smith what a route map is, in an advanced bgp tutorial
at a recent SANOG...

* don't trust each other too much at all, and fear that peering means
that people can rip them off by using those links for transit as well

* have a network that's a mess of botched mpls and other
implementations, all held together by a bunch of static routes

* or in some cases have, besides their usual IP space, a huge lot of
deaggregated IP blocks that are a legacy from when they had a whole
lot of leased lines purchased from the then incumbent + sole upstream

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