Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

[alex]

> > > Sure, but this like all other attacks of this sort can be tracked... and
> > > so the pain is over /quickly/ provided you can track it quickly :) Also,
> > > sometimes null routes are ok.
> >
> > How quickly is quickly? Often times as has been my recent experience
> > (part of my motivation for posting this thread) the flood is over before
> > one can get a human being on the phone.
> 
> Once the call arrives and the problem is deduced it can be tracked in a
> matter of minutes, like 6-10 at the fastest...

So if one wants to create a really nasty, largely untrackable problem, 
one just needs to mount a set of attacks that last 3-4 minutes at a time?

This is a very bad band-aid. The solution is amazingly simple - make it
uneconomical to have unprotected networks, the same way as it is
uneconomical for businesses that rely on internet for critical
communications not to have a firewall in place when purchasing business
interruption insurance. 

Alex