Merit Network
Can't find what you're looking for? Search the Mail Archives.
  About Merit   Services   Network   Resources & Support   Network Research   News   Events   Home

Discussion Communities: Merit Network Email List Archives

North American Network Operators Group

Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical

Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!

  • From: Ben Black
  • Date: Fri Jun 27 21:27:39 1997

i see, so i am to understand you wish us to simply *trust* that your 
results are valid based on vague references to your methodology?

hey everyone, i have just completed a study that indicates in some 
circumstances a 28.8 modem is faster than a DS-3!  no details at this 
time, but i swear it is all true!

On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Jack Rickard wrote:

> Mr. Black:
> 
> That is not precisely true.  How do you KNOW that the STUDY gives no
> details, when you can't have possibly SEEN the study YET.  You don't think
> my logic is flawed.  You don't know but snippets of what the logic IS.  You
> don't like what you see of a summary sliver of the results from a PRESS
> RELEASE.
> 
> Jack Rickard
> 
> ----------
> > From: Ben Black <black@zen.cypher.net>
> > To: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com>
> > Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better test!!!
> > Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 3:53 PM
> > 
> > the "study" gives no details on the systems used, where they were, who 
> > provided net connectivity...far from scientific.  the sort of thing one 
> > would expect from marketeers.
> > 
> > and just because overall system performance affects web downloads, does 
> > that mean web downloads can be used to accurately and meaningfully 
> > measure overall system performance?  i think your logic is flawed.
> > 
> > the net is not a big BBS, in case you haven't heard.
> > 
> > On Fri, 27 Jun 1997, Jack Rickard wrote:
> > 
> > > I'm not a marketing droid.  But only a moron would think that overall
> > > performance would NOT affect the download of a web page, which is
> > > essentially what you are attempting to say.
> > > 
> > > There are certainly other ways to do it.  Approximately Internet User
> > > Population raised to Internet User Population worth.
> > > 
> > > Jack RIckard
> > > 
> > > ===================================================================
> > > Jack Rickard                                    Boardwatch Magazine
> > > Editor/Publisher                    8500 West Bowles Ave., Ste. 210
> > > jack.rickard@boardwatch.com                     Littleton, CO 80123
> > > www.boardwatch.com                             Voice: (303)973-6038
> > > ===================================================================
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Ben Black <black@zen.cypher.net>
> > > > To: Craig A. Huegen <c-huegen@quadrunner.com>
> > > > Cc: Jack Rickard <jack.rickard@boardwatch.com>; Peter Cole
> > > <Peter.Cole@telescan.com>; nanog@merit.edu; marketing@keynote.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Keynote/Boardwatch Internet Backbone Index A better
> test!!!
> > > > Date: Friday, June 27, 1997 2:28 PM
> > > > 
> > > > for an exmple of somewhat more complete and better designed
> benchmarks of
> > > 
> > > > this type:
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.inversenet.com/about/backgrounder.html#2
> > > > 
> > > > note that they understand the numerous factors that contribute to
> overall
> > > 
> > > > performance.  only a marketing droid could think downloading 50k
> worth of
> > > 
> > > > web pages is somehow an indicator of overall performance.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > b3n
> > > 
> 




Discussion Communities


About Merit | Services | Network | Resources & Support | Network Research
News | Events | Contact | Site Map | Merit Network Home


Merit Network, Inc.