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Re: Class "B" forsale (fwd)
- From: Alex P. Rudnev
- Date: Mon Mar 10 07:06:49 1997
Hmm, let's make your questions more complex - if I own ISP and this ISP
bacame bankrupt, wpuld it's address space be - selled, returned, owned by
it's customers, etc... ???
On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Tom Glover wrote:
> I "kind" of agree. :) If I own a company, lets call it Acme, which has an
> internet connection and that company is making use of a class B address
> space it got from the 'NIC and if I sell Acme does that address block need
> to be returned? Another example is if I own an ISP that has several
> blocks of address space. What happens if I sell the ISP? Do the address
> blocks get returned? If Acme has to return their address blocks upon the
> sale of the company and the ISP doesn't on its sale, we've got a situation
> which would keep lawyers in Lexus for decades. If the answer is that you
> can legitimately transfer an address block if you sell the company then
> there's a nice big loophole. Anyone with a class B for sale could simply
> form a company and then sell it.
> Now I don't own a sellable address block. I'm just playing devil's
> advocate in what appears to be a very interesting quandary.
> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Brett L. Hawn wrote:
> > On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
> > > > The way I see it, it is worth no more than $10,000. As that is what
> > > >ARIN is going to charge any corp to get a Class B.
> > >
> > > How much is your time (spent making up and writing the justification for
> > > a class B) worth?
> > I think you miss my point, since the ARIN is for all intents and purposes
> > selling address space, who are they to say no? Apparently someone made a
> > case for a class B at one time or another, no longer needs it (for whatever
> > reason) and wants to pass it on to someone else and make a little profit in
> > at the same time. Now granted, I don't neccessarily agree with what they're
> > doing, but I certainly can't say anything 'wrong' about it either. I mean,
> > lets think about this for a second.
> > Say I 'own' the fictional block 188.8.131.52, its swipped to me, everything
> > is in order as it should be. I decide for whatever reason to turn off my
> > routers, sell my equipment and move to the Caymans to enjoy the rest of my
> > life. I now have two choices, 1: Return my block to ARIN, or 2: Sell my
> > block to someone else and make a small (or large for that matter, I'm sure I
> > could sell it for a interesting sum of money) profit.
> > scenario 1:
> > It gets returned and some other poor fool has to jump through flaming hoops
> > and surive a pool of toxic waste to get a few IPs.
> > scenario 2:
> > I change all the records to point to them, swip it out to them, basically do
> > everything needed to make them the legitimate 'owners' of that block, they
> > pay me a nice lump of cash and we're both happy.
> > As I see it, changing ownership of IPs is no different than changing
> > ownership of a domain.
> > [-] Brett L. Hawn (blh @ nol dot net) [-]
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