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Re: Only 5x IPv4 /8 remaining at IANA

  • From: Joe Maimon
  • Date: Fri Oct 22 09:24:55 2010


Matthew Petach wrote:
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Owen DeLong<owen@delong.com>  wrote:
On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:29 PM, Joe Maimon wrote:
Matthew Petach wrote:

So...uh...who's going to be first to step up and tell their customers
"look, you get a v6 /56 for free with your account, but if you want
v4 addresses, it's going to cost an extra $50/month." ??

Matt

Either the telephone company or the cable company. Probably both. Give me a harder one.

Joe

ROFL, Comcast is already telling their residential customers that if they want a static
IPv4 address it will cost them an extra ~$60/month.

(Delta between residential and business: ~$55/month, single static IPv4 address on business circuit: $5/month)

Owen
*sigh*

But what's the delta for getting the equivalent IPv6 resource?
You're comparing apples to oranges.

If comcast says "you get a static /56 of v6 for free, but a static v4
address costs $55/month",
then I can see you point.

But right now, the delta is between dynamic v4 (free) and static v4 ($55),
with no delta between dynamic v4 (free) and dynamic v6 (free), and no
option that I've seen for static v4 ($55) vs static v6 ($???).

It's those last two cases that would drive the deprecation of v4 over time; and
*that* is the step I don't foresee any provider wanting to do; certainly, not
being first up to the plate to do.

Matt

How about when they put new users behind CGN/LSN? Depending on how successful that is (for them), the delta can change dramatically.

It would be private v4 free, public v6 free (we hope), public v4 (static or dynamic) for $(?+).

Further dependent is what they will do to existing users. I can see them choosing to be fair and making all users suffer equivalently.

I can further see a potential result of huge swathes of v4 resources reusable by these companies, probably dwarfing the reclaimable resources most any other provider without a similar customer profile will have.

Joe





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