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Re: Is v6 as important as v4? Of course not [was: IPv6internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering]
- From: Patrick W. Gilmore
- Date: Wed Oct 14 11:50:46 2009
You really can't read, can you?
And I spoke to Martin about it personally. If he's OK with it,
perhaps you should clam down?
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TTFN,
patrick
On Oct 14, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
As for accusations, I challenge you to show where I accused them of
anything.
From: patrick@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:09:58 -0400
Subject: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering
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It is sad to see that networks which used to care about connectivity,
peering, latency, etc., when they are small change their mind when
they are "big". The most recent example is Cogent, an open peer who
decided to turn down peers when they reached transit free status.
I never thought HE would be one of those networks.
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Date: October 12, 2009 12:49:02 PM EDT
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Subject: Re: IPv6 internet broken, cogent/telia/hurricane not peering
To be clear, I was not trying to imply that HE has a closed policy.
But I can see how people might think that given my Cogent example.
My apologies to HE.
And to be fair, I'm pounding on HE because they've always cared
about their customers. I expect Telia to care more about their own
ego than their customers' connectivity. So banging on them is
nonproductive.
In summary: HE has worked tirelessly and mostly thanklessly to
promote v6. They have done more to bring v6 to the forefront than
any other network. But at the end of day, despite HE's valiant
effort on v6, v6 has all the problems of v4 on the backbone, PLUS
growing pains. Which means it is difficult to rely on it, as v4 has
enough dangers on its own.
Anyway, I have confidence HE is trying to fix this. But I still
think the fact that it happened - whatever the reason - is a black
eye for the v6 "Internet", whatever the hell that is.
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