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Re: WSJ: Big tech firms seeking power

  • From: Alex Rubenstein
  • Date: Fri Jun 16 21:26:35 2006

When I made my posting, I didn't know the context was google in Oregon. I missed that somehow.

Anyway, the dam referenced below:

And the power generated from the region:

Seems like a good place to setup a datacenter.

On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Jeff Shultz wrote:

David Lesher wrote:
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:

I wonder just how much power it takes to cool 450,000 servers.
KwH = $111,000 /month in cooling.
I don't know the area; but gather it's hydro territory?

How about water-source heat pumps? It's lots easier to cool
25C air into say 10-15C water than into 30C outside air.

Open loop water source systems do have their issues [algae, etc]
but can save a lot of power....

The Dalles, OR is on the Columbia River just upriver of Portland by 80 miles or so. It has a large dam spanning what used to be Celilo Falls in it's front yard.

Hydro territory doesn't even begin to define it... :-)

"Eco-freak" territory also doesn't begin to define it, so the idea of piping water off the Columbia and returning it even 1/2 degree warmer is a non-starter.

I'm amazed they let them put up tall cooling towers in "the historic, scenic Columbia River Gorge...." (sorry, old political battle flashback)

Alex Rubenstein, AR97, K2AHR,, latency, Al Reuben
Net Access Corporation, 800-NET-ME-36,

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