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Re: is this like a peering war somehow?

  • From: Alexander Harrowell
  • Date: Fri Jan 20 07:11:56 2006
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Whatever. No-one's actually trying to do "some packets are more equal
than others" here in Europe, except for the mobile people with IMS and
such. BT just transferred its access network into a new division with
a specific remit to provide open access to all ISPs and alt-
tels who want it.

It's in the US that the RBOCs and cablesters are actually doing this.

On 1/20/06, Per Heldal <> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 23:44:59 +0000, "Paul Vixie" <> said:
> >
> > proving once again that "peering ratios" only matter if the other guy's
> > customers can live without your "assymetric" content, here are two
> > articles
> > i saw today via slashdot.  what's interesting to me is whether bellsouth
> > will be sued some time later by some other content provider for
> > de-peering
> > them without also having applied the same rules to google.  note, this
> > isn't
> > a bellsouth-specific rant, they just happen to be mentioned in today's
> > story.
> Carriers trying to charge content-providers for access to their
> network/customers is just part of a greater picture. The telco industry
> is fighting to re-establish their dominant position. Traditionally
> they've been able to pocket (extort) a large portion of the revenue for
> 3rd-party PSTN services (content services) themselves. Over the last
> decade they've gained control of the ISP-industry and noe they want to
> achieve the same level of control of the internet. The most conservative
> are even suggesting to remove internet-governance from the public
> domain. The European telecoms industry is openly urging the UN to take
> control of ICANN's role. In the process they are trying to place the
> functions of IANA and IETF in their belowed ITU. Their ultimate goal is
> to eliminate IP as a product, to be able to sell access to sub-protocols
> as individual services.
> //per
> --
>   Per Heldal

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