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Re: IP Addresses from a different region

  • From: Sam Stickland
  • Date: Thu Jan 19 10:12:36 2006

That's a fair point David.

I can't of course start naming our clients. I could harp on about how they are a multinational, running legimate operations and blah blah blah.. But you'd only have my word for it. So you'll just have to take my word for the fact that we run an operational that comes down hard on nefrarious activities. Sorry.


On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, David Ulevitch wrote:

Be wary.

Who is this client? Some of us in the security abuse world wouldn't mind a heads up...


On Jan 19, 2006, at 6:20 AM, Sam Stickland wrote:


Long story short... I'm under some considerable pressure from management to obtain a /24 of addresses from ARIN. We are a UK based ISP that are, of course, members of RIPE. Is this possible? If I approach one of ARIN's LIRs can they obtain ARIN PI space for our client, and are their any volunteers? Or, is it the case, that being outside of ARIN's geographic reach that we can't approach them?

Short story long... This is for a client that currently has a USA based operation, that wants to consolidate everything in one of our colo centres. Their USA servers are involved in some of kind advertising system that attempts to do geographic location based on the IP address prefix. I am assured that traceroutes, SWIP data, and AS number play no part in this geographic lookup.

The client insists that they must have addresses from a prefix that appear to have been allocated by ARIN for this system to continue to work. The language barrier between us has been scrupering attempts by me to get more techincal information from them.

As usual management are interested in "solutions not problems" ;) and this deal is worth quite a bit of money. I hate to be contributing to the ever increasing PI swamp space, but unfortunately I don't pay my own wages.

Any suggestions?


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