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STILL Paging Google...

  • From: Matthew Elvey
  • Date: Tue Nov 15 19:57:47 2005


Still no word from google, or indication that there's anything wrong with the robots.txt. Google's estimated hit count is going slightly up, instead of way down.
Why am I bugging NANOG with this? Well, I'm sure if Googlebot keeps ignoring my robots.txt file, thereby hammering the server and facilitating s pam, they're doing the same with a google other sites. (Well, ok, not a google, but you get my point.)


On 11/14/05 2:18 PM, Coyle, Brian sent forth electrons to convey:
Just thinking out loud...

Have you confirmed the IP addresses of the Googlebot entries in your log
actually belong to Google?
/paranoia :)
The google search URL I posted shows that google is hitting the site. There are results in there that point to pages that postdate the robots.txt that should have blocked 'em. (http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awiki.fastmail.fm)


On 11/14/05 2:09 PM, Jeff Rosowski sent forth electrons to convey:
Are you trying to block everything except the main page? I know to block everything ...
No; me too. See
http://www.google.com/webmasters/remove.html
The above page says that
User-agent: Googlebot
Disallow: /*?
will block all standard-looking dynamic content, i.e. URLs with "?" in them.

On Mon, 14 Nov 2005, Matthew Elvey wrote:


Doh! I had no idea my thread would require login/be hidden from general view! (A robots.txt info site had directed me there...) It seems I fell for an SEO scam... how ironic. I guess that's why I haven't heard from google...

Anyway, here's the page content (with some editing and paraphrasing):

Subject: paging google! robots.txt being ignored!

Hi. My robots.txt was put in place in August!
But google still has tons of results that violate the file.

http://www.searchengineworld.com/cgi-bin/robotcheck.cgi
doesn't complain (other than about the use of google's nonstandard extensions described at
http://www.google.com/webmasters/remove.html )

The above page says that it's OK that

#per [[AdminRequests]]
User-agent: Googlebot
Disallow: /*?*

is last (after User-agent: *)

and seems to suggest that the syntax is OK.

I also tried

User-agent: Googlebot
Disallow: /*?
but it hasn't helped.



I asked google to review it via the automatic URL removal system (http://services.google.com/urlconsole/controller).
Result:
URLs cannot have wild cards in them (e.g. "*"). The following line contains a wild card:
DISALLOW: /*?

How insane is that?

Oh, and while /*?* wasn't per their example, it was legal, per their syntax, same as /*? !

The site as around 35,000 pages, and I don't think a small robots.txt to do what I want is possible without using the wildcard extension.











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