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Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

  • From: Randy Bush
  • Date: Fri Nov 11 13:46:02 2005

> None that I have spoken with.
>> that's what a number of i* members have publicly stated is their
>> opinion of talking to us operators.

i imagine you speak with the one i was quoting rather often,
though you were not there when it was said.  i was.  ask
others who were there, pitsburgh ietf, a meeting between
ipv6 chairs, iesg members, rirs, and a few ops.  a current
member of the iab specifically said, and i quote again,
since you seem to have missed the rest of my paragraph,

    operators won't accept the h ratio because they don't 
    know what a logarithm is.

while the ietf mouths a lot of words about wanting to hear
from, and get participation from, operators, the actual
experience is pretty brutal.

http://rip.psg.com/~randy/051000.ccr-ivtf.html is from the
current issue of acm sigcomm's ccr, where aaron falk also
has a piece.  i play curmudgeon and he pollyanna.

randy





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