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Re: Katrina Network Damage Report

  • From: Alan Spicer
  • Date: Sun Sep 11 14:26:39 2005

I don't think the point is that every thing could be connected to the Internet but that the worry that 2 things can't be connected and ISP's get to charge stupid fees for a static IP and that some countries other than the US are severely starved for IP addresses. The reason IPv6 adoption is so slow is because of things like NAT so the general public has no idea of any IP Address shortage. Until they try to run any kind of server on the Internet. If my ISP can give me a dynamic IP address on DSL for 100% of the time, regardless of wether it changes when I disconnect, means there are enough to give a static IP. I finally got one it took years to get it but an upgrade to service includes it now. I think the broadband stuff like increased DSL, and Cable and Cellular are going to starve these darned hoarded IP's out of the US companies that hold them and finally get this thing done one day soon. The fact that Google is looking at is I think is a wakeup call to that. isn't offering IPv6 which is crazy they should talk to google I guess. So where is IP6 being done? I heard in mobile - cellular data?

Alan Spicer (

----- Original Message ----- From: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <>
To: "NANOG list" <>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina Network Damage Report

On 11-sep-2005, at 14:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

And seriously, does the main assumption of v6, that every single
toaster out there is going to become a v6 host, really not scare
Nope. I guess people have other things that scare them... See subject.

Giving IP connectivity to stuff that was just not designed
from a security point of view .. I'm sure people have seen all the
stories about network printers and electron microscopes running open
relay smtp daemons, so when do I get to see a botnet full of
compromised toasters that'll burn your toast to cinders if you try to
disinfect them?
Well, because I want to NAT some stuff (i.e., Windows XP box...) and not other stuff (the machines that I actually use) my wireless base station that is also a print server needs to accept print jobs from both "the outside" and "the inside". So far, I haven't found any spam printouts yet...

In other words: 0wning random appliances isn't all that interesting.

In fact, I would much rather allow access to pretty much anything else rather than a powerful general-purpose computer.

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