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Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?

  • From: John Palmer (NANOG Acct)
  • Date: Sun Jan 16 20:52:16 2005

They don't have a mailing list that is public yet.  Might
be a good suggestion.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gnulinux@pacinfo.com>
To: <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?


> 
> On 16 Jan 2005 at 15:52, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) wrote:
> 
> > See http://www.public-root.com for an alternative to the ICANN monopoly.
> > Those folks are very concerned with security.
> 
> these folks don't seem very decentralized.  do you 
> know if they have a public mailing list?  there 
> doesn't seem to be much information on the website.
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <gnulinux@pacinfo.com>
> > To: <nanog@merit.edu>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 3:45 PM
> > Subject: Re: Association of Trustworthy Roots?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 16 Jan 2005 at 21:31, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
> > > 
> > > > wsimpson@greendragon.com (William Allen Simpson) wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > While the Association of Trustworthy ISPs idea has some merit, we've
> > > > > not been too successful in self-organizing lately.  ISP/C?
> > > > 
> > > > I thought we already had built such a thing, currently covered by ICANN.
> > > 
> > > let's think outside the box.
> > > 
> > > there's no reason that nanog (or anyone willing to run 
> > > a mailing list) couldn't create an ad hoc 
> > > decentralized Trustworthy ISP/Root service.  heck, 
> > > such a thing may even encourage more active 
> > > participation in nanog.  having a shared group 
> > > identity where the rubber meets the road is very 
> > > powerful.  it's the underlying motivator behind the 
> > > nanog, xBSD, GPL, torrent, tor, (pick your non-
> > > hierarchical community driven project), etc. clans.
> > > 
> > > there's also no reason that this has to replace ICANN. 
> > >  and it would likely have the exact result on existing 
> > > entities that you mention below - improved 
> > > trustworthiness.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > peace
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > But well...life changes everything, and for some (or many) or us, this
> > > > association doesn't seem so trustworthy anymore. Maybe it would be better
> > > > to improve trustworthiness of the existing authorities. I believe there
> > > > is still much room for participation, not to mention political issues
> > > > you simply cannot counter on a technical level.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > At the moment, I'm concerned whether we have trustworthy TLD operators.
> > > > 
> > > > One can never know what's going on behind the scenes. Maybe Verysign
> > > > is on the issue, maybe not. I believe, there are at least three VS
> > > > people on this list who could address this. I don't know whether they
> > > > are allowed to.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > It's been about 24 hours, it is well-known that the domain has been
> > > > > hijacked, we've heard directly from the domain owner and operator,
> > > > > but the TLD servers are still pointing to the hijacker.
> > > > 
> > > > By chance - how is the press coverage of this incident? Has anybody
> > > > read anything in the (online) papers? Unfortunately I haven't been
> > > > able to follow the newsboards intensely this week-end, but Germany
> > > > seems very quiet about this.
> > > > 
> > > > Yours,
> > > > Elmar.
> 
> 




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