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RE: Proposed list charter/AUP change?

  • From: Ejay Hire
  • Date: Tue Jan 04 18:39:25 2005

I second this request. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog@merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu]
On 
> Behalf Of Bill Nash
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:51 AM
> To: Steve Sobol
> Cc: Susan Harris; nanog@merit.edu; Betty Burke
> Subject: Proposed list charter/AUP change?
> 
> 
> On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, Steve Sobol wrote:
> > Susan keeps on claiming spam is offtopic for Nanog, yet
the 
> AUP/Charter/FAQ 
> > don't mention spam other than telling us not to ask "I'm

> being spammed, how 
> > can I make it stop?"
> >
> > If it's flat-out offtopic, no matter what, or if the 
> majority of list members 
> > don't want to talk about it on the list, why hasn't the
FAQ 
> been updated? Or 
> > does Merit just want us to try to guess what is
offtopic?
> >
> 
> Spam represents a significant percentage of email traffic,
and its 
> delivery is increasingly via trojaned dsl/broadband
devices. 
> Even spam 
> delivered from quasi-legitimate sources is usually an
abuse 
> of resources 
> that some NSP/ISP is paying for. Discussion of functional 
> spam control at 
> the ISP level, I think, is absolutely on topic for a list
of 
> this scope. 
> Please note, that I say 'functional'. Random complaints
would 
> obviously 
> not fall into this category.
> 
> Examples would include:
> Working enterprise-scale spam filtering (Hourly mail
volume 
> measured in 
> thousands)
> Discussion of edge/core SMTP filtering to curtail spam
sources.
> Policy discussions for handling domestic and international

> spam sources.
> Implementation, or requests for implementation, of SPF and
similiar 
> controls.
> Inter-network cooperation for handling large scale issues.
> 
> I think this last is pretty much exactly what a list like 
> this is for, be 
> it spam, regional power outages, BGP shenanigans, or 
> widespread squirrel 
> detonations.
> 
> - billn





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