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RE: 2001:590::/32 announced by both AS4436 (nLayer) and AS4474 (Global Village, no contact in whois, but seems to be nLayer...)

  • From: Jeroen Massar
  • Date: Tue Mar 16 08:27:34 2004

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Jordan Lowe [mailto:jordan@servercentral.net] wrote:

> Who are you to start publicly trying to deeper people? Nlayer has a
> great noc, I am a customer, and know many more.  They are currently
> migrating from 4474 to 4436 due to the asn issue, and its not 
> illegal to source a route from two asn's.

AS4474 is not theirs, for that matter it currently doesn't belong
to anyone as there is not valid contact information registered in
the ARIN database.

> They're almost done with the 
> migration, I didn't see any emails from you when cogent was renumbering 
> from 16631 to 174 asking for a depeering.

Because I am not watching IPv4 tables and cogent announced it.
Also both those ASN's are properly registered in the registries.
Next to that Cogent does respond to inquiries.

> If you just emailed or called 
> they would have glady resolved your issue. Can you explain the 
> operational problem with this dual announcement?  I seem to be missing it.

I am a user of the internet who asked for a answer at their
NOC from which I got *no* reply, except for ticket numbers,
even after sending 2 messages the last two weeks.
Which then caused me to inquire NANOG which is a correct list
to do so as nLayer is a US based (North American) "ISP".

Next to that mentioning nLayer to abuse-tracking people seems
to also get a response that there is quite a lot of abuse in
the forms of spam from them. Is that the reason they are 'migrating'
to hide their paths from the spam aware people?

Maybe you, as a perfect customer, can ask them to update their
objects in the ARIN registry or stop hijacking internet resources?

Greets,
 Jeroen

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