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Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

  • From: Jeremy T. Bouse
  • Date: Sat Mar 13 15:46:48 2004

	I'd have to chime in and say I'm already paying almost $100 for
my aDSL connection for my home. I'm paying for a static IP allocation
which has been SWIP'd with ARIN and have forward and reverse DNS
pointing to my domain. However I deal with on a regular basis ISPs which
will reject the mail from my servers as saying they're dynamic dial-up
IP space. Not that any one of them ever respond to inquires to try and
get removed (RoadRunner being the most recent) from the list; nor the
fact that not one piece of spam has been sent through my servers given
that they are SMTP AUTH only, have extensive anti-virus scanning (which
doesn't send out emails to anyone but postmaster), and spam tagging.

	I can understand the ISPs that don't allow hosting of servers on
the DSL line and/or blocking SMTP outbound traffic; however if a
customer is paying for static IP space and the ability to host servers
on the DSL line then it's not dynamic. I'm not gonna pay another
$50/month to have my mail server at some colo just so my mail can be
delievered because some ISP doesn't want to accept the mail. I've even
recently published the SPF details in my zones so any SMTP+SPF compliant
machine can even verify that the message is coming from an authorized
machine. Unfortunately not enough domains are doing the same.

	Regards,
	Jeremy

On Sat, Mar 13, 2004 at 11:45:44AM -0800, Michel Py wrote:
> 
> > Paul Vixie wrote:
> > every time i tell somebody that they shouldn't bother
> > trying to send e-mail from their dsl or cablemodem ip
> > address due to the unlikelihood of a well staffed and
> > well trained and empowered abuse desk defending the
> > reputation of that address space, i also say "buy a
> > 1U and put it someplace with a real abuse desk, and
> > use your dsl or cablemodem to tunnel to that place."
> 
> <me puts the devil's advocate suit on>
> $50 is a lot of money; I currently send email from my aDSL address
> because a) my ISP's smarthost sucks  b) historically their SMTP hosts
> have been blacklisted more than mine c) even if they did not suck (which
> has improved a lot recently, actually) they still won't accept large
> attachments or mailing-list traffic.
> I pay $36/mo for my aDSL. $50 _more_ sounds a lot.
> </me puts the devil's advocate suit on>
> 
> Besides, although this list is definitely the right place to find people
> that would operate a personal SMTP relay in a colo just by the virtue
> that it's the geeky thing to do, what does it change in the big scheme
> of things? All these small business customers (20 persons) that I have
> that use a sub-$100 "business" DSL and M$ Small Business Server +
> Exchange are not going to go for it, because the cost then will suddenly
> become $50 plus the 1U server plus my time plus maintaining it.
> 
> Michel.
> 

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