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Re: Counter DoS

  • From: Rachael Treu
  • Date: Thu Mar 11 15:12:13 2004

Two words ( hyphenated-reference):



k. rachael treu, CISSP
..quis costodiet ipsos custodes?..

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:50:56PM -0800, Gregory Taylor said something to the effect of:
> Oh yes, lets not forget the fact that if enough sites have this 
> 'firewall' and one of them gets attacked by other sites using this 
> firewall it'll create a nuclear fission sized chain reaction of looping 
> Denial of Service Attacks that would probably bring most major backbone 
> providers to their knees.
> (Popcorn's in the microwave as I speak)
> Greg
> Jay Hennigan wrote:
> >On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Gregory Taylor wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> >>After reading that article, if this product really is capable of
> >>'counter striking DDoS attacks', my assumption is that it will fire
> >>packets back at the nodes attacking it.  Doing such an attack would not
> >>be neither feasible or legal.  You would only double the affect that the
> >>initial attack caused to begin with, plus you would be attacking hacked
> >>machines and not the culprit themselves, thus pouring gasoline all over
> >>an already blazing inferno.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >On the other hand, they could become immensely popular, reaching the
> >critical mass when one of them detects what is interpreted as an attack
> >from a network protected by another.  Grab the popcorn and watch as they
> >all bludgeon each other to death.  :-)
> >
> > 
> >

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