Merit Network
Can't find what you're looking for? Search the Mail Archives.
  About Merit   Services   Network   Resources & Support   Network Research   News   Events   Home

Discussion Communities: Merit Network Email List Archives

North American Network Operators Group

Date Prev | Date Next | Date Index | Thread Index | Author Index | Historical

RE: Fun new policy at AOL

  • From: Tony Hain
  • Date: Thu Aug 28 15:57:03 2003

Matthew Crocker wrote:
> Shouldn't customers that purchase IP services from an ISP use 
> the ISPs 
> mail server as a smart host for outbound mail?

Look carefully at that question and find the logic error.


In case you missed it, the customer purchased 'IP' service, not 'ISP mail


> We block outbound port 
> 25 connections on our dialup and DSL pool.  We ask our customers that 
> have their own mail servers to configure them to forward through our 
> mail servers.  We get SPAM/abuse notifications that way and can kick 
> the customer off the network.  We also block inbound port 25 
> connections unless they are coming from our mail server and 
> require the 
> customer setup their MX record to forward through our mail 
> server.  We 
> virus scan all mail coming and going that way.  We protect our 
> customers from the network and our network from our 
> customers.  We are 
> currently blocking over 3k Sobigs/hour on our mail servers.  I would 
> rather have that then all my bandwidth eaten up by Sobig on all of my 
> dialup/DSL connections.

Running a walled garden is fine as long as that is what your customers are
signing up for. One question though, why aren't you also running a web proxy
and NetNanny to protect your customers from the 'bad' content on port 80?
What makes port 25 so special?

> SMTP & DNS should be run through the servers provided by the ISP for 
> the exact purpose.  There is no valid reason for a dialup customer to 
> go direct to and there is no reason why a 
> dialup user 
> should be sending mail directly to AOL, or any mail server for that 
> matter (besides their host ISP)

This line of thinking leads us to a cabal that has complete control over
communication. Think about it, a few large organizations allow/encourage
abuse, then claim that the only resolution to the abuse is to route all
communication through the centrally controlled servers. We end up back in
the PTT style monopolies where censorship becomes trivial.


Discussion Communities

About Merit | Services | Network | Resources & Support | Network Research
News | Events | Contact | Site Map | Merit Network Home

Merit Network, Inc.