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Re: East Coast outage?

  • From: alex
  • Date: Sun Aug 17 15:23:54 2003

> > >
> > > And solar nor wind are good for base energy production so were stuck
> > > with other methods unless you want to move IP packets only when its
> > > windy.
> >
> > Or you store excess power generated on windy/sunny days for later
> > distribution on calm/rainy days:
> >
> >
> > That still ignores tidal, hydro, and geothermal power, which are 
> available
> > 24x7.  And let's not forget ethanol, which is easy to make from excess 
> food
> > crops and has already replaced gasoline entirely in a few countries.
> Use hydrogen. One solar panel (which will last forever unless you drop 
> something on it) can split H2O into H and O. 

Sure, burn energy to store it.

> Store the H for windless days 
> or at night.

Burn energy here as well.

> Feed this to a turbine for electricity and recover heat for hot 
> water, store it in a heat sink, ect. 

Burn energy.

> Or feed the H into a fuel cell & 
> strip off the electron volts. 

Burn energy.

> Now a home user can produce  wattage to 
> supply power for his neighbors. 

Release energy.

> The amount of power to be had via these 
> hydrogen processes is huge.

Release energy.

> The by-products of this are water and Oxygen.

Release energy.

> The only problem is that the Oil men are in charge. They want to pipe NG 
> to houses and have us crack NG into hydrogen. Cut the cord !

So let us use N J to let us release M J, where N is significantly greater
than M. What a brilliant concept. When someone starts actively doing it,
please remind me the name of the company so I can short it all the way to
zero. Thanks god that the oil people are in charge.


P.S. The problem with ethanol is the same - the total amount of energy
needed to crate useful fuel is greater than the amount of energy it

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