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Re: Edge 1 Networks/Williams Communications Group (fwd)

  • From: william
  • Date: Tue Aug 05 23:18:14 2003

I do believe you're right about edge1 being new front Nick Geyer (who just 
recently said he's done with ip hijackings and will be doing everything legit
and proper now - wonder if this can really be believed...). About Nick Geyer
and his associates, see
(and at you can see list of all ip 
blocks they stole - that is a LOT of ip space!)

Then again it is interesting if this was you being helpfull or was it inside 
information (the person providing this info is himself associated with 
hijackers listed at

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 18:14:22 -0400
From: "Booth, Michael (ENG)" <>
To: Jeff Kell <>
Cc: nanog <>,,
Subject: Re: Edge 1 Networks/Williams Communications Group

> After several run-ins with Edge 1 Networks [] having their 
> machines "hijack" victim machines on our networks infected with Jeem, 
> and then making their spam runs, I've had it.  I have reported both to 
> Edge 1 and their parent Williams Communications Group [AS7911] with no 
> result and I will be blocking Edge 1 [in theory, AS29986, but no doubt 
> private spewage from WCG.NET).

I smell a rat.  I have a funny feeling Edge1 is a front for
pro-spammer Nick Geyer.

Look at their whois:

      Edge1 Networks
      Hostmaster Edge1
      25 Broadway - 5th Floor
      New York, NY 10004
      Phone: 212-248-1121
      Fax..: 212-248-0929

But if you call Verizon, they'll tell you these lines terminate
on the sixth floor of 25 Broadway, an address I remember all
too well from the VMX Networks hijackings.

If you want the abuse to stop, call Nick at work (212-685-2009)
or on his cellular phone (503-851-1963) and tell him to knock it off.

If Nick is busy or at a meeting, as is often the case
ask to speak to his boss, Paul Hodara, and see if he can track
him down.

The Williams NOC could care less, if you want to get anywhere,
try contacting Blake Williams ( or 
Michael Winslow (, who are capable of
taking action, including ultimately denying service to Edge1 
for AUP violations.

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