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Re: .mil domain
- From: Mark T. Ganzer
- Date: Fri May 30 16:31:15 2003
One already is. The H server resides at the Army Research Lab, which is
connected to DREN (AS668).
FWIW there is not a single homogeneous .mil network. There are several
DoD networks that provide service to customer organizations, and some of
the major public DoD sites are also directly connected to commercial
ISP's. Also different services and sites may have different policies as
to who they allow access from. So without knowing the destination
address, it's hard to be able to tell someone who thinks they are being
blocked who to contact. If you can't reach a site directly, try their
upstream providers and see if they can help provide a POC. Try looking
at the aspath for the destination, and if any of the following show up,
try these POC's:
AS668 (DREN) 866-NOC-DREN or noc@dren.net
AS7170 (ATT-DISC) 888-DISC-USA or noc@att-disc.net
AS568 (DISN) DISA GNOSC at 703-607-4001 or the Columbus RNOSC at
800-554-3476
For security related issues, try contacting the DoD CERT (www.cert.mil,
800-357-4231). All of the services have their own CERT as well, however
they all coordinate with this organization.
-Mark Ganzer
Space & Naval Warfare Systems Center, San Diego
ganzer@spawar.navy.mil
note: this is posted from my personal email account, not my work account).
Mark Borchers wrote:
Suggestion: migrate the current MIL root servers to the DREN
network. Thus they would be easily accessible from DoD's
networks, while residining in front of any MIL filters or
blackhole routers relative to the rest of the Internet.
On Fri, 30 May 2003, Mike Tancsa wrote:
At 01:15 PM 30/05/2003 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
For the same reason anyone else accepts their routes --
because they want to
be able to reach them. If they don't want to reach _you_, that's their
choice.
As Sean Donelan pointed out, the fact that 2 of the root name
servers are
inside their network, there is more to the issue than you
suggest.... I for
example want people in Australia to be able to reliably lookup
DNS info on
my domains. The .mil people have decided to hamper this process.
I agree. The root servers should have no filtering in place to block any
demographics (unless of course a given node is DoSing them).
The last time I tried to contact a .mil to report an open relay that was
being abused, I was accused of being a spammer that had "hacked" their
server. Since that time I reject .mil mail.
Justin
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