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Re: M$SQL cleanup incentives

  • From: Doug Clements
  • Date: Sat Feb 22 04:54:40 2003

I'll bite..

----- Original Message -----
From: "William Allen Simpson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: M$SQL cleanup incentives

> I'm of the technical opinion that everyone will need to filter outgoing
> 1434 udp forever.
> Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> > Maybe the best approach is to try and deliberately infect the entire
> > local net every few minutes or so to detect new vulnerable systems while
> > the people installing them are still on the premises.
> >
> Gosh, should we do that for every known virus/worm/vulnerability?

Which is it? Where do you draw the line between something that's big enough
to block forever and something that's not worth tracking down? You lambast
him for attempting a solution that is foolish to apply for every known
possible problem where if your solution was applied as such, we'd have a
swiss-cheese internet in which any commonly used destination port is blocked
due to the scads of IIS/bind/fingerd/ftpd/whatever worms.

Have fun filtering.

> Or maybe you don't actually own and/or have legal and financial
> accountability for your own network?

Or maybe he likes having a network his customers can actually use.


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