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Re: Cascading Failures Could Crash the Global Internet

  • From: Jack Bates
  • Date: Sun Feb 09 10:10:10 2003

From: "Stewart, William C (Bill), SALES"

>
> I think the key is that the failures described in the paper
> are caused by overload rather than other things -
> too much demand for power blows out the generator,
> and without it, the grid tries to get the power from the next
> nearest generators, which overload and fail, and try to pull an
> even large amount from the _next_ nearest, etc.
> So the bit about heterogeneity is probably referring to
> the fact that some nodes are bigger or better-connected than others,
> and are more likely to blow out a bunch of their neighbors when
> they fail and shed a big load.
>
> That's not really how Internet systems usually fail.

 A prime example of this theory was the large network I was using back when
IE5 first came out. They had one circuit bad which overloaded an ATM circuit
at another NAP causing it to generate bit errors. Shutting down the second
circuit overloaded both MAE circuits effectively shutting down the network.
However, it required manual intervention to create full failure, otherwise
TCP would pull back to being useless, effectively killing all connections
going that path, but not causing an issue with other paths until the manual
intervention of shutting down the cirucit.

While in theory it was still a cascade failure, it was also poor
planning/policy on the part of the network to not be able to compensate in
case of failure. The information provided may be partially inaccurate and is
only hearsay concerning actual outages and effects when various
interventions were tried; no hard fact. Thus it could be taken as solely my
conjecture and not actual fact.

-Jack





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