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RE: Operational Issues with

  • From: alex
  • Date: Fri Dec 06 15:45:50 2002

Well, to increase chance of reachability of blocks immediately after RIRs 
start making assignments, RIRs should request new assignments from IANA 
well ahead of exhaustion of currently-held blocks. 

Possibly, considering that ARIN and RIPE run through 1 /8 a year, a 
"spare" /8 should be allocated to them (and filter-making folks 
dropping filtering).

Smaller registries (APNIC, LACNIC), under this proposal, would request a 
/8 when their current /8 is 50% full.

This should reduce frequency of required filter updates to once a year or 


On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Barry Raveendran Greene wrote:

> IMHO - The RIRs are doing their part. They announce to the operations
> aliases their intention to allocate a new block before they start doing
> it. People like me (with the ingress-prefix-template), Rob Thomas (with
> the bogon template), and Steve Gill (with the Junos flavor of the
> ingress-prefix-template) start tweaking our templates and post them to
> the community.
> After that, it would be up to each operations team to execute within
> their own network.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [] On Behalf Of
> Adam "Tauvix" Debus
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:16 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: Operational Issues with
> >
> > So for the sake of argument, in your proposal an ISP could filter all
> of
> > the blocks that the RIRs allocate out of and hamstring them
> indefinitely?
> >
>     Perhaps not, but an X month period after the inital allocation to
> the
> RIR where they don't assign out of that pool might be wise. Perhaps
> e-mails
> can be sent to the registered contacts of existing IP space upon initial
> allocation, on the first of each month, and then on the last day of the
> hold.
>     I know that I am sometimes a bit too busy to take care of something
> like
> that at the very instant I get the e-mail, and that it can fall to the
> wayside. Many times a reminder e-mail has come at a moment where I was
> able
> do to something about it.
> Thanks,
> Adam "Tauvix" Debus
> Linux Certified Professional, Linux Certified Administrator #447641
> Network Administrator, ReachONE Internet

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