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Re: Internet Core Routing - Ethernet
- From: Bob Martinez
- Date: Sun Sep 29 14:15:35 2002
Wrong. None of the vendors wants to help you what so ever. What they want
Cool, I respect that attitude. At least now I know how to deal with you.
The glass is half empty.
do is to have you spend your money with them by claiming that they want to
You are the guy that posted about IBGP Nailed Routes. I love that idea. I
understand your love of L3 and your design is great; however, as a service
provider, you can't always rely on IP. What about Global Ethernet? The NY,
Paris, Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore, Frankfurt, Moscow, Bankok, Sydney, Hong
Kong, London, Cairo, Los Angeles, Jerusalem, Toronto, Mexico City, Rio (Can
I manage this one?) Internet Exchange? MPLS VPLS over Ethernet Anybody?
Use your nailed routes trick in the middle (MPLS side) and L2 peering
exchanges in each city. Only problem with this is complexity. Do this
alone or with few partners and you may be able to pull it off completely L2
without the cost of complexity. Simple like you said. Gotta work on the
reliability part though. Test. I'd like to test in Paris, London,
Jerusalem, and Toronto. I haven't been to those places yet and I got this
cool digital camera. Please don't shoot when you see a Mexican (American)
who can't speak Spanish.
> Wouldn't you rather have a reliable, redundant L2 core with isolated
> failures and fast recovery?
No. I hate complicated words and complicated concepts. It reminds me NASA
spending 10M to invent a pen that writes in 0 gravity instead of using a
That will work, but I don't think carrier pigeons are Internet Core unless
there has been major pigeon development I'm unaware of. Good question.. 1G
(.z and .ad aggregates), 2.5G (POS), 10G (.az), 20G (.ad), 40G (.ad), beyond
are more of the realm we are in nowadays huh? I suppose you can use WDM
equipment and get an 802.3ad 100G trunk someday, but then again the
assumption is that single flows would not be more than 10G :-)
> Ethernet is my digital wrapper of choice because of vendor chipsets
> supporting it and quality product.
Yeah, ethernet over what, carrier pigeons?
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