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Re: How do you stop outgoing spam?
- From: Barry Shein
- Date: Wed Sep 11 15:57:11 2002
And locking your car, taking the keys, setting the alarm or whatever
doesn't guarantee someone won't load it into a soundproof truck.
BUT IT HELPS!
And having run an ISP for 13 years now I'm here to tell you what I say
HELPS. I'm not just making this stuff up, I'm telling you what I know
Spammers et al look for easy marks they don't have to compound their
As to CyberCafes, I don't know anything about those, never used one,
never thought about it, surprised they'd be popular with spammers.
On September 11, 2002 at 14:12 email@example.com (Brad Knowles) wrote:
> At 2:37 PM -0400 2002/09/10, Barry Shein wrote:
> > A) Make a clear policy as part of the terms & conditions, including a
> > significant clean-up fee + direct charges (e.g., if they ask you or
> > prompt a legal question they can pay the legal fee for you to get it
> > answered.)
> That's nice to have, but hard to enforce. That is, unless you
> ask for a large up-front cash deposit.
> > B) KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU'RE GIVING ACCOUNTS TO so that (A) works. Get
> > a credit card or verify the phone number and other info (e.g., call
> > them back, insist on calling them back.)
> Do you know how many credit cards are out there? Do you know how
> many of them are fake or stolen? You can't even get a decent charge
> that you can reliably apply to them, because the bank at the other
> end will refuse payment from a non-existent or closed account.
> > C) Use (B) to enforce (A).
> Doesn't work. See above.
> > The problem in 99% of the cases is either (B) or ISPs who just don't
> > care at all.
> CyberCafe's can't use (B), even if it did work. That would
> violate their basic premise.
> Brad Knowles, <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
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