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RE: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working GroupProposal at

  • From: Brad Knowles
  • Date: Thu Aug 29 18:44:01 2002
  • Reply-by: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100

At 11:54 AM +0200 2002/08/29, Jeroen Massar wrote:

 But as long as you live that's better than letting them have their ways
 now is it.
It's still the death of a thousand cuts. Yes, it buys us time, but we have to use that time wisely to get real socio-legal solutions. And we have to get people to agree that the only thing it really does is buy us time, so that we can get real socio-legal solutions faster -- hopefully, in time to save the patient.

 Now stop the anal-ogies and come up with something that will _stop_ the
	I could say the same to you.

 b) A few weeks ago I counted over 200 open relays simultaneously
 spewing the same spam at us.
 Thats where RBL's are for, they close them up, if you had used an RBL
 your box would simply deny those relays at all, block them IP based and
 bingo no spewing from them.
That's assuming that all those open relays were on one of the blacklists. Even then, they'd still hammer his machines with connections.

 Because sooner or later you can't see out the grated windows any more
 or get some air through them, and you're afraid to go outside...
 Never been in the city (those places where more than 100k people live)
 now have you ?
	Yeah, I have.  Those people still leave their apartments on occasion.

Brad Knowles, <>

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