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[Brad Knowles]

At 11:54 AM +0200 2002/08/29, Jeroen Massar wrote:

>  But as long as you live that's better than letting them have their ways
>  now is it.
	It's still the death of a thousand cuts.  Yes, it buys us time, 
but we have to use that time wisely to get real socio-legal 
solutions.  And we have to get people to agree that the only thing it 
really does is buy us time, so that we can get real socio-legal 
solutions faster -- hopefully, in time to save the patient.

>  Now stop the anal-ogies and come up with something that will _stop_ the
>  crackdealing.
	I could say the same to you.

> >  b) A few weeks ago I counted over 200 open relays simultaneously
> >  spewing the same spam at us.
>  Thats where RBL's are for, they close them up, if you had used an RBL
>  your box would simply deny those relays at all, block them IP based and
>  bingo no spewing from them.
	That's assuming that all those open relays were on one of the 
blacklists.  Even then, they'd still hammer his machines with 
connections.

> >  Because sooner or later you can't see out the grated windows any more
> >  or get some air through them, and you're afraid to go outside...
>  Never been in the city (those places where more than 100k people live)
>  now have you ?
	Yeah, I have.  Those people still leave their apartments on occasion.

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