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Re: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at

  • From: Jared Mauch
  • Date: Wed Aug 21 16:05:26 2002

	I'd seen back in the mid 1990s a user that got banned from
all the isps on his island (or fairly close to it) due to
abuse of services.

	obviously when you have a set of only 3-4 isps to choose from
this makes it a lot easier to keep the guy from doing anything evil.

	but these days everyone that can negotiate a bulk-dial
agreement with someone and run a radius server can sign up
users and make the abuse a bit harder to track ...

	i do think some sort of smtp-callback would be nice/useful
for validation of e-mail addresses.  it'll make it so
the bounces go to someplace at least instead of Postmaster.

	- jared

On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 03:29:46PM -0400, Robert Blayzor wrote:
> > Really good idea (no sarcasm, I actually like it).. But what 
> > stops spammers
> > from registering their mail server?..Ie..
> > 	1) Get a dsl account
> > 	2) Ips get swipped to you
> > 	3) Register the server
> > 	4) SPAM 
> > 	5) Apologize, get a second chance
> > 	6) get booted off
> > 	7) Call the next ISP with a zero install
> > 	8) Rinse and repeat.
> Treat them sort of like SSL certs now.  Charge an annual registrar fee
> per company, not per server. (Something like $100 a year)  The more they
> have to go out of their way to get their spam server online, the more
> they would be deterred to do so.  They're only going to want to change
> so many ISP's, go through SWIP and then change their legal name for the
> registrar so many times.
> --
> Robert Blayzor, BOFH
> Life would be much easier if I had the source code.

Jared Mauch  | pgp key available via finger from
clue++;      |  My statements are only mine.

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