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RE: Deaggregating for emergency purposes

  • From: Phil Rosenthal
  • Date: Tue Aug 06 14:15:02 2002

I only have 10 /24's that are absolutely mission critical to keep up.
We have scaled back our IP usage, and we are a lot more efficient than
we were before about the IP space.
We are pretty well connected, so I would bet we would have a shorter AS
path than many other networks (particularly ones that would make a
mistake like that).

-----Original Message-----
From: [] On Behalf Of
E.B. Dreger
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:59 PM
Subject: RE: Deaggregating for emergency purposes

PR> Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:29:58 -0400
PR> From: Phil Rosenthal

PR> Most ISPs that build off of the IRR's do it nightly.  I am talking 
PR> about 10 /24's out of /19, and I'm not announcing any of the /24's 
PR> -- and wont unless there is an emergency, and only then would it be 
PR> temporary.

How did you arrive at 10x /24's?  What about when someone else has a
shorter as-path, or it gets to "oldest route wins"? Polluting the IRRs
for little/no benefit is a bad thing.

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