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Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
- From: Jared Mauch
- Date: Thu Jun 06 10:21:56 2002
While a good idea, not everyone can announce or reach the
IX fabrics that they connect to or are out there.
One solution to that problem is to have the IX operate a
zeebra/gated/whatnot box (or router+machine combo) that
announces a /24 and as part of connecting to the IX people
are required to peer (and provide transit) for that /24 for
the "good of the internet".
This would allow everyone that connects to the IX to see
the benifits of having a close (to their network that is) dns server
as well as if my provider does not announce the DE-CIX, LINX, mae-e, mae-w,
paix, nyiix, or whatever space to me, i can still reach a server
placed at the IX via their network or via their peers/upstreams.
(very rough ui)
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:07:09PM +0200, Nipper, Arnold wrote:
> As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea
> to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than
> any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs.
> Arnold Nipper, DE-CIX, the German Internet Exchange
> email: email@example.com
> mobile: +49 172 2650958
> handle: an6695-ripe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sabine Dolderer/Denic" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> To: "Jan-Ahrent Czmok" <email@example.com>
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> Subject: Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
> DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some
> other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer
> secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of
> security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run
> on a single machine.
> Sabine Dolderer
> DENIC eG
> Wiesenhüttenplatz 26
> D-60329 Frankfurt
> eMail: Sabine.Dolderer@denic.de
> Fon: +49 69 27235 0
> Fax: +49 69 27235 235
> Czmok An: Joao Luis Silva Damas
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> owner-lir-wg@ Thema: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net
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> WebSubject: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.
> On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200
> Joao Luis Silva Damas <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility
> > >> of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in
> > >> agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this
> > >> server (ns.eu.net) in its premises.
> > >
> > >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine. but i used them both
> > >to get diversity.
> > Hi Randy,
> > there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both
> > secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a
> > new host as soon as possible.
> Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg,
> probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary
> server for the ccTLDs.
> The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the
> We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well.
> > The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since
> > ns.eu.net will keep running.
> Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work.
> > We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that
> > we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people.
> > The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable
> > people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of
> > having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of
> > events.
> > >
> > >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something.
> > Panic? what panic? this is just common sense
> right. it's not panic.
> Jan Ahrent Czmok - Senior Network Engineer - Access Networks
> Global Access Telecommunications, Inc. - Stephanstr. 3 - 60313 Frankfurt
> voice: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69 299896-66 - email: email@example.com
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