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RE: 'we should all be uncomfortable with the extent to which luck ..'
- From: Roeland Meyer
- Date: Sat Jul 28 19:28:38 2001
> From: Deepak Jain [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 3:49 PM
> I am not sure why people complain about telnet-security when
> many of these
> same people have no qualms whatsoever using FTP on the same account --
> equally plain text and over the general internet.
I 100% agree with you and we don't do in.ftpd either (ever since the first
wu-ftpd exploit was published). All of those functions here use the various
flavors of SSHscp. General downloads and publication are via httpd. Uploads
are via JSP to non-executable directories. All of the above are front-ended
with tcpd and detailed hosts-allow entries, which is all post-ipchains
Actually, we could talk a lot about nasty old MSFT. But, wu-FTP is just as
bad, if not worse. How many years has it been and it *still* isn't fixed? I
was on a recent HP-UX installation and they *still* had the vulnerability.
Maybe it is because MSFT and WU are in the same State? Maybe MSFT's attitude
is geo-physically caused?
In many ways the open-source community is as bad. How many programmers don't
know the difference between strcpy and strncpy and the relevent security
implications? Also, why does strcpy/memcpy continue to exist? The fact that
we still have buffer overflow problems is living proof that some should not
be programming without a license.
I recently found out that Emil Dykstra was no longer universally required
reading in all Computer Science curriclulii. I stand amazed. No *wonder* we
continue to have these problems.