4) Turn NANOG into a membership organization run by an elected board.
I suggest #1 and #2. If you have lots of money, you could always try
#3. #4 is intrigueing, but I doubt the collective will to accomplish it,
particularly as this issue is a dearth of vendor supplied undergarments,
which, while tragic, is not exactly the sort of cause that folks would
Daniel Golding NetRail,Inc.
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"
On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, John M . Brown wrote:
> Yes, a specific single person at MERIT found the boxer shourts
> offensive. In talking with many other people at that NANOG,
> both male and female, they didn't find the shorts offensive and
> infact where sought after.
> Thus a "gray market" in cisco shorts was created, preventing Cisco
> from taking it in the "shorts".
> If that has now grown to "vendors can't give anything" out, then
> its a SAD SAD SAD DAY.
> I certainly hope those at MERIT will help educate the power to be..
> NANOG now has gone Corporate, In fact I am surprised MERIT is sponsoring
> Beer, I mean someone could get tipsy and have an accident (other
> than dropping there shorts).
> It reminds me of those start-ups that have beer thirty on the back
> loading dock on fridays. They grow, people enjoy hanging out, working
> hard and having some fun.
> Then one day someone decides its not "the right image, or something"
> and the friday 4:30 parties are killed. Its the dawn of Corporate
> Image and RED TAPE.
> I seriously hope NANOG doesn't go that way.
> I mention no names, as to protect the stuffy and the guilty.
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:13:50AM -0500, Adam Rothschild wrote:
> > [ Warning: this message is void of any operational content. ]
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 11:36:55PM -0600, Ukyo Kuonji wrote:
> > > Did I miss some discussion about the Beer and Gear surprise? I,
> > > personally, feel somewhat cheated that there was no "gear" available
> > > from the vendors in attendance.
> > <rumor>
> > Sponsors were specifically asked _not_ to give out clothing, as the
> > Cisco boxer shorts distributed at NANOG 20 were somehow deemed
> > offensive and discriminatory.
> > </rumor>
> > Don't get me wrong, Beer and Gear was definitely time well spent, I
> > just found the "gear" aspect (assuming that's in reference to
> > freebies, not hardware demonstrated by vendors) a bit lacking. ;)
> > Long live free vendorware.
> > -adam