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Re: Beer and Gear surprise

  • From: Hank Nussbacher
  • Date: Thu Feb 22 03:51:09 2001

At 22:04 21/02/01 -0500, Daniel L. Golding wrote:

There is an easy solution here. If folks are really incensed about the
lack of vendor goodies and/or the level of excitement on certain panels,
they can:

1) Volunteer to speak at future NANOG meetings on stuff they feel is more

2) Provide feedback on the survey

3) Buy Merit and run it themselves
Just the alone should be worth about $1b. :-)


4) Turn NANOG into a membership organization run by an elected board.

I suggest #1 and #2. If you have lots of money, you could always try
#3. #4 is intrigueing, but I doubt the collective will to accomplish it,
particularly as this issue is a dearth of vendor supplied undergarments,
which, while tragic, is not exactly the sort of cause that folks would
rally around.

Daniel Golding                           NetRail,Inc.
"Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness"

On Wed, 21 Feb 2001, John M . Brown wrote:

> Yes, a specific single person at MERIT found the boxer shourts
> offensive.  In talking with many other people at that NANOG,
> both male and female, they didn't find the shorts offensive and
> infact where sought after.
> Thus a "gray market" in cisco shorts was created, preventing Cisco
> from taking it in the "shorts".
> If that has now grown to "vendors can't give anything" out, then
> its a SAD SAD SAD DAY.
> I certainly hope those at MERIT will help educate the power to be..
> NANOG now has gone Corporate, In fact I am surprised MERIT is sponsoring
> Beer, I mean someone could get tipsy and have an accident (other
> than dropping there shorts).
> It reminds me of those start-ups that have beer thirty on the back
> loading dock on fridays.  They grow, people enjoy hanging out, working
> hard and having some fun.
> Then one day someone decides its not "the right image, or something"
> and the friday 4:30 parties are killed.  Its the dawn of Corporate
> Image and RED TAPE.
> I seriously hope NANOG doesn't go that way.
> I mention no names, as to protect the stuffy and the guilty.
> jmbrown
> On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 01:13:50AM -0500, Adam Rothschild wrote:
> >
> > [ Warning: this message is void of any operational content. ]
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 11:36:55PM -0600, Ukyo Kuonji wrote:
> > > Did I miss some discussion about the Beer and Gear surprise?  I,
> > > personally, feel somewhat cheated that there was no "gear" available
> > > from the vendors in attendance.
> >
> > <rumor>
> >
> > Sponsors were specifically asked _not_ to give out clothing, as the
> > Cisco boxer shorts distributed at NANOG 20 were somehow deemed
> > offensive and discriminatory.
> >
> > </rumor>
> >
> > Don't get me wrong, Beer and Gear was definitely time well spent, I
> > just found the "gear" aspect (assuming that's in reference to
> > freebies, not hardware demonstrated by vendors) a bit lacking. ;)
> >
> > Long live free vendorware.
> >
> > -adam
> >

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