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Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS

  • From: Alex P. Rudnev
  • Date: Thu Jan 13 15:08:39 2000

This allow me to repeat - don't bother about ORBS, no one serious can use this
service because it cause the missing of the important mail -:). Than let's they
are doing troubles to those who want this troubles.

My policy was always the same - if someone yse ORBS, we never promise to deliver
e-mail for him. I guess this policy exists yet.


On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, Garlic wrote:

> Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 11:35:31 -0800
> From: Garlic <garlic@garlic.com>
> To: I Am Not An Isp <patrick@ianai.net>
> Cc: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Fw: Administrivia: ORBS
> 
> 
> 
> ORBS does seem to have this policy although it is not on their web site.
> 
> I Am Not An Isp wrote:
> 
> > At 12:18 PM 1/13/00 -0500, Harald Koch wrote:
> >  >
> >  >Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, "Sehmel, William C."
> >  >had to walk into mine and say:
> >  >>
> >  >> Got this from bugtraq.
> >  >
> >  >Alot of us did. I thought about posting it to nanog, but then I actually
> >  >researched the issue a bit, and discovered that securityfocus' listerver is
> >  >*not* in the ORBS database at this time.
> >  >
> >  >Sounds like FUD to me.
> >
> > patrick@pts/0.ns2/10:40AM# nslookup www.orbs.org
> > Server:  localhost
> > Address:  127.0.0.1
> >
> > Non-authoritative answer:
> > Name:    www.orbs.org
> > Address:  202.36.148.16
> >
> > Traceroute Output
> >
> > FROM www.above.net TO 202.36.148.16.
> >
> > traceroute to 202.36.148.16 (202.36.148.16): 1-30 hops, 38 byte packets
> >   1  gate-96.main.sjc.above.net (207.126.96.189)  1.21/2.28/3.5 (0.612)
> > ms  10/10 pkts (0% loss)
> >   2  core1-main.sjc.above.net (209.133.31.153)  *
> > !H  *  *  *  *  *  2.9/2.9/2.9 (0.0) ms  1/7 pkts (86% loss)
> >
> > Above.Net really is filtering ORBS.  And if ORBS lists people who block
> > them.....
> >
> >  >Harald Koch     <chk@pobox.com>
> >
> > TTFN,
> > patrick
> >
> > --
> >    I Am Not An Isp - www.ianai.net
> >    ISPF, The Forum for ISPs by ISPs, <http://www.ispf.com>
> >    "Think of it as evolution in action." - Niven & Pournelle
> >    (OhMyGod - Watch out 'Net, I got enable again! ;-)
> 
> 
> 

Aleksei Roudnev,
(+1 415) 585-3489 /San Francisco CA/






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