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Re: BBN issues

  • From: Deepak Jain
  • Date: Mon Dec 13 13:29:01 1999


Since this operational once it goes beyond 1 guy/network last week and 
possibly longer we were seeing routes that go from BBN to Sprint to UUNET 
and reciprocally direct through Genuity. I doubt if Sprint noticed BBN 
was using them for transit, and I know I didn't bring it to their 
attention at the time.

It looks like some integration issues between the two networks.

Deepak Jain
AiNET

On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Charles Sprickman wrote:

> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm very sorry to use this list for this purpose, but I need a clueful
> person at BBN who has dealings with the old Genuity network to contact me.
> 
> We're seeing paths like this to nearly everywhere on BBN-announced space,
> and we have not been able to get this fixed for over a week:
> 
> (this is just one of many examples, but I thought the pure entertainment
> value would keep Randy from browbeating me)
> 
> This is to a recent verio partner.  It is my understanding that verio
> peers with bbn and that bbn does not buy transit from sprint for this
> purpose.  Traffic to uu, cw, you-name-it takes similar paths.  We are in
> NYC.
> 
> Tracing the route to www.nyct.net (204.141.86.3)
> (NYC to NYC)
> 
>   1 fa10-0.nyccolo-border1.bbnplanet.net (207.240.48.45) [AS 3847] 4 msec
> 0 msec 4 msec
>   2 f6-0.nyccolo-core1.bbnplanet.net (207.240.1.81) [AS 3847] 4 msec 0
> msec 0 msec
>   3 128.11.124.54 [AS 3847] 80 msec 84 msec 80 msec
>   4 sl-gw11-ana-6-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.207.145) [AS 1239] 92 msec
> 96 msec 88 msec
>   5 sl-bb12-ana-0-3.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.61) [AS 1239] 88 msec 92
> msec 100 msec
>   6 sl-gw7-ana-8-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.1.38) [AS 1239] 108 msec 92
> msec 88 msec
>   7 sl-atmn-1-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.228.79.14) [AS 1239] 112 msec 112
> msec 108 msec
>   8 lax00.nuq0.verio.net (129.250.2.197) [AS 2914] 104 msec 116 msec 104
> msec
>   9 nuq0.pao5.verio.net (129.250.3.9) [AS 2914] 104 msec 100 msec 100 msec
>  10 pao5.dca0.verio.net (129.250.2.246) [AS 2914] 172 msec 172 msec 176
> msec
>  11 dca0.iad3.verio.net (129.250.2.61) [AS 2914] 168 msec 168 msec 168
> msec
>  12 iad3.phl00.verio.net (129.250.3.106) [AS 2914] 184 msec 172 msec 176
> msec
>  13 phl00.phl02.verio.net (129.250.3.154) [AS 2914] 172 msec 176 msec 176
> msec
>  14 phl02.nyc1.verio.net (129.250.3.126) [AS 2914] 180 msec 176 msec 176
> msec
>  15 nyc0.new-york.net (129.250.16.210) [AS 2914] 196 msec 196 msec 220
> msec
>  16 nyc1.new-york.net (165.254.27.1) [AS 3384] 216 msec 216 msec 204 msec
>  17 nyct-gw.new-york.net (204.141.247.202) [AS 3384] 204 msec 232 msec 204
> msec
>  18 www.nyct.net (204.141.86.3) [AS 3384] 240 msec 220 msec 192 msec      
> 
> and a view from the other end:
> 
>  1  gw1 (204.141.86.1)  1.716 ms  1.985 ms  1.647 ms
>  2  nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.53)  6.680 ms nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.201)  45.256 ms nyc1.new-york.net (204.141.247.53)  4.348 ms
>  3  nynet.nyc2.verio.net (129.250.16.253)  17.068 ms  15.114 ms  4.134 ms
>  4  nyc2.ord2.verio.net (129.250.3.133)  80.155 ms  65.077 ms  105.167 ms
>  5  ord2.bbn.verio.net (129.250.9.58)  83.454 ms  74.323 ms  48.674 ms
>  6  p2-3.chicago1-nbr1.bbnplanet.net (4.0.1.205)  30.023 ms  28.376 ms  44.516 ms
>  7  p2-1.paloalto-nbr2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.7.18)  94.908 ms  93.209 ms  100.024 ms
>  8  p6-2.lsanca1-br2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.205)  108.497 ms  101.718 ms  102.779 ms
>  9  p7-0.lsanca1-ba2.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.37)  112.947 ms  102.288 ms  104.770 ms
> 10  p1-0-0.lsanca1-bp1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.5.182)  137.716 ms  115.041 ms  105.331 ms
> 11  s0-0-0.phnyaz2-cr1.bbnplanet.net (4.24.4.70)  137.202 ms  125.529 ms  120.528 ms
> 12  fa8-1-0.phxcolo-core2.bbnplanet.net (4.1.110.238)  115.923 ms  126.025 ms  110.862 ms
> 13  128.11.124.53 (128.11.124.53)  205.543 ms  198.474 ms  190.957 ms
> 14  f12.border1.nyc1.genuity.net (207.240.1.82)  203.052 ms  254.448 ms  201.596 ms
> 15  ptp-46.100fe10-0.nyc1.genuity.net (207.240.48.46)  242.274 ms  207.217 ms  233.641 ms
> 16  covad-dsl-eth0.telehouse.inch.com (207.240.128.21)  210.980 ms  286.533 ms  259.133 ms
> 17  sdsl-interface-130-208.dsl.inch.com (207.240.208.130)  274.182 ms  270.452 ms  264.278 ms
> 18  zeus.7nt.com (207.240.214.2)  289.261 ms  265.979 ms *
> 
> I am livid, is this any way to run a tier 1 network?  More and more often,
> I find myself (the customer who is supposed to know less) pointing out
> gross errors to these folks.  Sorry to vent.
> 
> Charles
> 
>  -- 
> =-----------------=                                        = 
> | Charles Sprickman                       Internet Channel |
> | INCH System Administration Team         (212)243-5200    |
> | spork@inch.com                          access@inch.com  |
> =                                         =----------------=
> 
> 
> 
> 





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