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RE: BBN Peering issues

  • From: Mike Gaddis
  • Date: Wed Aug 12 19:33:56 1998

Large access oriented companies like BBN, MCI and others have been keen to 
point out the problem with the so called web-farms.  In the early days it 
clearly was a problem because the costs associated with carrying bandwidth 
were not evenly matched between a large distributed (and costly) access 
network and a MAE attached data center. It created an economic disparity 
that could not be sustained. Let's recognize the validity of that argument. 

Many of us (in the Brokered Private Peering initiative) have been looking 
for ways to solve that disparity and to create a fair value proposition 
between both types of networks.  The best mechanism we have found is for 
the web-centric companies to have regionally distributed connect points and 
substantial backbone capacity to perform best-ingress or cold potato (from 
web to access point of view) routing.  In our view, this model reverses the 
negative value proposition into highly favorable terms for the access 
company.  After all, their customers want access to these Web sites and the 
service is now dropped off regionally, saving considerable backbone expense 
for the access company.

That Exodus is doing cold potato and BBN does not find this sufficient to 
consider Exodus a true peer causes me some concern.  It makes one wonder if 
there is a solution to this peering problem after all.  I don't want to see 
the government intercede without at least trying to find peering balance. 
 I believe Exodus has shown great willingness to "do the right thing here."

This can develop into a backbone civil war and I think BBN will not fair 
well if that occurs.  (There are major web sites being cut off if this 
break in peering happens.  Believe me, BBN customers will care a great 
deal.)  I don't see the upside in this decision.   I truly hope that cooler 
heads prevail, and soon, or major parts of the network may black out for 
many thousands of Internet users.  This will cause major harm to the 
Internet market and the perception of any-to-any connectivity.  This will 
likely demand government intervention.  Not good.

Mike Gaddis
CTO
Savvis Communications


-----Original Message-----
From:	alex@nac.net [SMTP:alex@nac.net]
Sent:	Wednesday, August 12, 1998 4:39 PM
To:	Robert Bowman
Cc:	dg@root.com; michaels@sun.aracnet.com; asr@millburn.net; 
nanog@merit.edu; alex@nt.nac.net
Subject:	Re: BBN Peering issues

On Wed, 12 Aug 1998, Robert Bowman wrote:

> I've tried to stay away from posting here, but a small clarification...
>
> Exodus is currently dealing with the asymmetry of traffic by assuming
> a large chunk of the burden by doing best-exit, at BBN's request, based
> upon BBN's MEDs.  So let's not make it into the argument that the "evil"
> web hosters are just dumping recklessly via shortest-path out.  Exodus
> has assumed the cost of all long haul delivery coast-to-coast of the
> data that BBN's users are requesting.

Heh, that makes it look even worse for BBN now and potentially in the
future, depending on what Exodus chooses to do. It's amazing that they
shot thierselves in the foot like this.






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