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RE: Why does Sprint have address filters again?

  • From: Jamie Scheinblum
  • Date: Sat May 30 00:46:15 1998

Suggestion:

The initial ASN should be bundled with a /19 to create a "multi-home"
package.  Unbundled ASNs whould be unreasonably high to cover the
administration of the initial ASNs of the world, and the cost associated
with a /19.

In reality it seems you need both, a /19 to make it past the route filters,
and an ASN.  This also save on the ARIN support side, since the ARIN
employee tasked with making the call to verify the customer does in fact
have 2 T-1s (or has 2 ISPs vouch he will have at least a T1 with each), can
also verify they will accept the routes for the ASN.

Seems like this would cut the administraion on ARIN's behalf a bit, and make
it "more fair" to the smaller networks looking to multi-home (See Karl's
proposal on IP allocation).

-jamie@networked.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dillon [mailto:michael@memra.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 1998 12:02 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Cc: arin-council@arin.net
Subject: Re: Why does Sprint have address filters again?


On Fri, 29 May 1998, Karl Denninger wrote:

> Now, let's look at the parallels:
> 
> 1.	Both are required to "do business" in a given sector (ie: announce
> 	routes, sell to the Erate customer base)
> 
> 2.	Both are simple *technical* providers (assignment of a number, with
> 	the important being that it is unique in both cases).
> 
> 3.	One is free to the ISP.
> 
> 4.	The other costs $500.00

5. One is financed by the government out of your taxes and is merely an
accounting formality much like a customer ID number. The other is funded
by a corporation that has no government funding and must support itself
not unlike most businesses and the number is a critical infrastructure
identifier something like an NPA-NXX.

> What is going on here?  ASNs didn't used to cost money until ARIN got its
> claws into them.

ASNs have always cost money to issue. It's just that in the past it was
funded out of taxes funnelled through the NSF to a subcontractor and
hidden somewhere in NSI's budget. Those days are gone, thank God.

--
Michael Dillon                 -               Internet & ISP Consulting
Memra Communications Inc.      -               E-mail: michael@memra.com
http://www.memra.com           -  *check out the new name & new website*





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