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RE: NAP Architecture

  • From: Chad Skidmore
  • Date: Thu Oct 30 02:15:19 1997

Agreed . . . . 100%.

If anyone is telling you that they are prohibited from setting any price
they want due to tariff limitations then they are probably clueless
sales folks.  If they insist on the tariff excuse then suggest that they
file an ICB (Individual Case Basis) tariff for dry NAP copper.  Then
they can price the interconnect however they want.

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Chad Skidmore
Director of Network Engineering
Northwest Nexus, Inc.
cskidmor@nwnexus.com
http://www.nwnexus.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Rodney Joffe [SMTP:rjoffe@genuity.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, October 29, 1997 11:28 AM
> To:	'NANOG'
> Subject:	RE: NAP Architecture
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	the Riz [SMTP:riz@beast.boogers.sf.ca.us]
> > Sent:	Wednesday, October 29, 1997 10:07 AM
> > To:	blkirk@float.eli.net
> > Cc:	nanog@merit.edu
> > Subject:	Re: NAP Architecture
> > 
> > This *is* becoming more popular; in the US, the main problem is that
> > many
> > (most?) of the exchange points are operated by telcos, who are
> > tariffed.
> > This means that any connection between separate entities is a
> > "circuit"
> > that they must charge a certain minimum amount for.  As more telcos
> > manage
> > to move their exchange point operations into the non-regulated
> portion
> > of
> > their respected businesses, this may change, and exchanges are
> > currently
> > being built by non-telco entities, which are allowed to have more
> > reasonable charges to connect cages in the same facility together.
> > (Disclaimer: in my other life, I work for one such facility... the
> > PAIX in
> > Palo Alto)
> > 
> > 
> 	Baloney.......
> 
> 	I defy anyone to show me a "tariff" for interconnects at a NAP.
> 
> 	There is no such thing. 'cos, as y'all know, if it was tariffed,
> there wouldn't be any 'special' deals. 
> 
> 	The phrase is "Highway robbery". The problem is they don't even
> have the class to let you see the gun.




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