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Re: Summary of ANTI-spam techniques now available

  • From: Dana Hudes
  • Date: Tue Aug 05 14:35:24 1997

Ehud,
You are pretty unforgiving. Shall we all watch and when you screw
up rush to filter your blocks? Not every provider has a huge
staff with nothing else to do. Even when one dedicates personnel
to it, not everyone has the experienced unix wizards to make it
happen in no time flat.  You might be right to consider blocking
the originators of the spam but then we got hit from a UUNET
dialup port in honolulu among others including a small isp called
cwia not to mention numerous PSI dialups including San Luis
Opisbo.

So go ahead, Ehud, I dare you to block all PSI in 38/8 and the
UUNET dial ports as well.

(And this from huge players who should have implemented filter
rules to prevent their users from doing ip spoofing and from
using mail servers other than UUNET and other authorized
servers).

Given this state of affairs, it seems ludicrous to block someone
like Graphnet .
Hit the 'vanity mail' and 'profit engineering' outfits by all
means. Not companies that are being victimized.

Dana Hudes
Graphnet

Ehud Gavron wrote:

>         I'm sorry but the North American Excuses List is
> elsewhere.
>
>         What does "we are working on it" mean to you?  To me it
>
>         means "We don't want to do anything about it."
>
>         What does "please give us some time to correct the
> problem"
>         mean to you?  To me it means "We're stalling for as
> much time
>         as we can get. Just make an exception for us, would
> you. Maybe
>         our exception will just stay there forever. We're
> working on it,
>         you know."
>
>         Spam is the content-destroyer of the Internet.
> Blocking,
>         removing, no-compromising, no-accepting, and rejecting
> is
>         the solution.
>
>         Ehud
>
> >>
> >>
> >> I just finished a writeup which covers anti-spam methods
> using:
> >>
> >> - route filters
>
> >Ack! You put 'datablast.net' in their Marty! :)
>
> >Seriously, we are working on the Datablast problem. Datablast
> >has basically been victimized by the spammers. While not
> directly
> >a part of TIAC, we do support Datablasts servers et. al.
>
> >In any event, before blocking Datablast.NET, please give us
> some
> >time to correct the problem. For the record, TIAC does NOT
> >support spamming. Nor does Datablast.NET
>
> >--
> >Martin Hannigan (hannigan@tiac.net)       Voice: 617-932-2000
> >TIAC - Network Operations                Semper Cabalis
> >Network Engineer                          http://www.tiac.net







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