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Re: Any from PSI on this list?

  • From: Todd R. Stroup
  • Date: Mon Jun 16 15:39:59 1997

Sure this would be a great idea if you could get them to buy off on the idea
that peering is worth a second or third router (~80k router + ~5k
port/month).  My question is "What about the RA?". :) The whole idea was to
remove the load issues, flap and dampening problems, etc from the routers and
move it to a CPU only box.  Granted there are other things to look at, which
we don't need to get into with this thread but at least it would be a 
temp solution.  IMHO.

BTW  Whoever sent that mail about BBN peering.  They just added two more 
routers to relax the CPU issues at MAE_EAST.  You may want to email 
again. 

Todd R. Stroup
Fiber Network Solutions, Inc.


On Mon, 16 Jun 1997, Wayne Bouchard wrote:

> I've heard this from various networks as well. While I find it
> annoying, it does serve usefull purposes. More peering sessions mean
> higher CPU load. higher CPU load can mean more instability within the
> router. When the router crashes or otherwise reboots, it takes it
> longer to resynchronize which means longer delays in convergance and
> poorer overall service. Limiting the number of peering sessions on
> really busy routers is a benefit, not a problem. The only thing that
> could be asked of them would be that they investigate installing a
> second router to offload some of the peering sessions so they don't
> have such a backlog of requests and maybe provide load balancing. if
> they are accepting applications, they need to provide facilities for
> those requests to be implemented.
> 
> However, I still second the comment below..
> 
> > Please commend PSI for not making the situation at the MAEs worse, don't
> > criticize them.  By connecting any more peers at ME/MW, it will simply
> > add to the packetloss levels for all of us.
> > 
> > Rob
> > > 
> > > Alex,
> > > 
> > > 	We executed peering agreements with PSI in May (1997) for peering at
> > > MAE-EAST and MAE-WEST (signed, mailed, etc...)
> > > 
> > > 	One of our engineers contacted them last week to turn up these peering
> > > sessions and was told by PSI that even though we have an executed peering
> > > agreement with you, "our routers at the MAE's are overloaded and we are not
> > > currently turning up any new peers."
> > > 
> > > 
> > > K
> > > 
> > > --
> > > | Kyle C. Bacon
> > > | VP Operations
> > > | kbacon@fibernet.net
> > > | http://www.fibernet.net
> > > 
> > >  connecting your world...
> > > 
> > > On Jun 16, 10:11am, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> > > > Subject: Any from PSI on this list?
> > > >
> > > > I can't seem to reach anyone at PSI who knows what I am talking about, so
> > > > I thought I would try here.
> > > >
> > > > Lately, our connectivity to PSI has gotten worse; to the point where
> > > > customers complaing about getting to sites from PSI.
> > > >
> > > > The thing is, PSI has a 'MEGA-PoP' about 14 feet away from me at 33
> > > > Whitehall Street, in NYC.
> > > >
> > > > I know PSI peers there with a few folks; are they adding? How do you
> > > > become considered for peering with PSI?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your time.
> > > >
> > > >-- End of excerpt from Alex Rubenstein
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > | Kyle C. Bacon 
> > > | VP Operations
> > > | kbacon@fibernet.net
> > > | http://www.fibernet.net
> > >  
> > >  connecting your world... 
> > >  
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
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