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Re: Class "B" forsale (fwd)

  • From: Tom Glover
  • Date: Sun Mar 09 08:52:15 1997

I "kind" of agree. :) If I own a company, lets call it Acme, which has an
internet connection and that company is making use of a class B address
space it got from the 'NIC and if I sell Acme does that address block need
to be returned?  Another example is if I own an ISP that has several
blocks of address space. What happens if I sell the ISP? Do the address
blocks get returned? If Acme has to return their address blocks upon the
sale of the company and the ISP doesn't on its sale, we've got a situation
which would keep lawyers in Lexus for decades. If the answer is that you
can legitimately transfer an address block if you sell the company then
there's a nice big loophole. Anyone with a class B for sale could simply
form a company and then sell it.

Now I don't own a sellable address block. I'm just playing devil's
advocate in what appears to be a very interesting quandary.

On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, Brett L. Hawn wrote:

> On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
> 
> > >	The way I see it, it is worth no more than $10,000. As that is what
> > >ARIN is going to charge any corp to get a Class B. 
> > 
> > How much is your time (spent making up and writing the justification for
> > a class B) worth?
> 
> I think you miss my point, since the ARIN is for all intents and purposes
> selling address space, who are they to say no? Apparently someone made a
> case for a class B at one time or another, no longer needs it (for whatever
> reason) and wants to pass it on to someone else and make a little profit in
> at the same time. Now granted, I don't neccessarily agree with what they're
> doing, but I certainly can't say anything 'wrong' about it either. I mean,
> lets think about this for a second.
> 
> Say I 'own' the fictional block 223.101.0.0, its swipped to me, everything
> is in order as it should be. I decide for whatever reason to turn off my
> routers, sell my equipment and move to the Caymans to enjoy the rest of my
> life. I now have two choices, 1: Return my block to ARIN, or 2: Sell my
> block to someone else and make a small (or large for that matter, I'm sure I
> could sell it for a interesting sum of money) profit.
> 
> scenario 1:
> 
> It gets returned and some other poor fool has to jump through flaming hoops
> and surive a pool of toxic waste to get a few IPs.
> 
> scenario 2:
> 
> I change all the records to point to them, swip it out to them, basically do
> everything needed to make them the legitimate 'owners' of that block, they
> pay me a nice lump of cash and we're both happy.
> 
> As I see it, changing ownership of IPs is no different than changing
> ownership of a domain. 
> 
> 
> [-]                Brett L. Hawn (blh @ nol dot net)                       [-]
> [-]                Networks On-Line - Houston, Texas                       [-]
> [-]                           713-467-7100                                 [-]
> 

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Regards,
Tom
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