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Re: [NANOG] Bay Networks in bed with commie censors?

  • From: Jeffrey C. Ollie
  • Date: Sun Jan 19 00:18:36 1997

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On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:08:39 -0800, avg@pluris.com writes:
>
>Ronald Barron Yokubaitis <rony@texas.net> wrote:
>
>>MMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm...........Do the same considerations apply to
>>BUYING from the PRC?
>
>Please.  The original speech was not about trade with PRC which
>is unquestionably good and desireable; but about cooperation
>with an organization whose _proclaimed_ goal is to build a
>politically censored version of Internet, and make uncensored
>networks completely illegal in PRC.

You seem to be contradicting yourself. On one hand, you say that trade
with the PRC is "unquestionably good and desireable". But on the other
hand you condemn Bay Networks for selling products and technical
services to the PRC (as you should know, "partner" is marketing-puke
speak for "they are giving us LOTS of money, so let's make them feel
special").

If selling products and support to organizations that construct
censored networks shouldn't we condemn BOTH Bay Networks and Cisco for
selling to U.S. corporations that use firewalls and other methods to
control/monitor employee's access to the Internet?


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Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:59:03 -0600
From: "Jeffrey C. Ollie" <jeff@ollie.clive.ia.us>
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:08:39 PST."
             <199701190308.TAA02340@quest.pluris.com> 
Subject: Re: [NANOG] Bay Networks in bed with commie censors? 
To: nanog@merit.edu

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