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Re: wrt joao damas' DLV talk on wednesday

  • From: Joe Abley
  • Date: Tue Jun 13 13:11:09 2006

On 13-Jun-2006, at 11:45, Randy Whitney wrote:

Possible issue is that having an "official" badge could mean that
those who pay full price for the conference but never actually
make it into the sessions but are otherwise [OK|GURU|LORD|L3GND]
may argue that they also deserve special treatment. Not sure for
such a short conference as NANOG that day tix would be a good
idea either.
Some thoughts:

1. The SC and the PC keep hearing that for many people the time in the corridors is as important (or more important) than the presentations. While such people might pick up the occasional talk, they extract the value they need from the event in the social networking they do outside the ballroom.

2. The process of registration is currently simple (one price, one product) and yet it still provides a non-trivial workload for Merit staff. Merit are in the process of reducing the FTE count for NANOG, which means the workload is going to up, and it will go up more if the registration process gets more complicated. There are only so many hours in the day.

3. I can't believe that anybody really wants guards stationed at the doors checking badges. Those attendees with an unhealthy appetite for uniforms can always spend their breaks at the local fire department.

4. The conference fee is the smallest component of the cost of attending a NANOG meeting. Travel and accommodation costs routinely exceed $350 for a meeting. The beer and food bill over three days for many people also exceeds $350. (For some people the beer bill can exceed $350 over the course of an hour :-)

5. One person's net legend is another person's insane kook. If there's some rank of seniority or worthiness that is supposed to bestow favours upon attendees, who decides who makes the grade? If people really need discounts and honours to persuade them to attend, doesn't that mean the event is fundamentally broken? If it's broken, wouldn't it be better to expend energy fixing it, rather than funding people to attend?

The current acceptable methods for people to attend NANOG without paying are:

http://www.nanog.org/intro.html#fee

That seems pretty clear to me. Let's not embark on a grand voyage of change for the sake of it.


Joe




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