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- From: Jeff.Ogden
- Date: Thu Jan 06 08:45:49 1994
Attached is some more information about the CIX. As you'll see if
you read this all the way to the end I've asked Bill if he can
give us a list of just those CIX networks that are not available to
MichNet by other routes.
You've seen many replies to my initial message about the CIX. I also
received a few private messages. So far there has been one person
strongly in favor of MichNet access to the CIX, one somewhat in
favor, six or seven against and a few asking for more info. Those
that were against don't seem to be against the CIX, but just don't
think there is enough demand to justify the $10K fee at least today.
One or two people suggested taking a wait and see position since
we know that the Internet in the US will be restructured in major
ways later this year and with any luck that will help the commercial
access question. Of course with some bad luck it could make it
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 19:17:12 EST
There is a discussion going on within MichNet about the fact that traffic
between the CIX attached networks and MichNet is being blocked by the CIX.
We could fight about that some, but that isn't my idea of a good time.
The discussion within MichNet (between our staff and our customers) is
if we should pay the $10K per year fee to join the CIX. A common reply
is who is it (what networks and what hosts) that we would gain access
to if we joined the CIX -- without that info it is hard for people
to know if spending $10K on this would be money well spent or not.
Can you or someone help us get an answer to this question?
Message: 29680025, 214 lines
Posted: 10:09pm EST, Wed Jan 5/94, imported: 10:12pm EST, Wed Jan 5/94
Subject: CIX Information
To: Jeff Ogden
I have attached a copy of the cix info brochure. I appreciate the
chance to give you some "help" if that's what to call it. I certainly have
no interest in a fight either. I would be glad to try to respond to
specific questions or concerns if I possibly can. Don't hesitate to raise
any issues. Please let me know what other information I can provide for
you. I would also be happy to answer any questions you have. Thanks for
your inquiry, Bill W.
Bill Washburn <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Executive Director--Commercial Internet eXchange (CIX) Assoc.
Vox: (303)482-2150 Fax: (303)482-2884
718 Mathews St., Ft. Collins, CO 80524
3110 Fairview Park Dr Suite #590, Falls Church, VA 22042
Commercial Internet eXchange Association
Is your organization a Public Data Internetwork service provider?
Does your network want to offer unrestricted access to other networks worldwide?
Are your network and its users concerned with the development and future
direction of the Internet?
If the answer to any of these questions is YES, you should know about the
Commercial Internet eXchange (CIX).
Why is Global Networking Important?
Telephones and telecommunications have transformed the world of business.
The commercialization of the Global Internet promises to produce an even
more profound transformation of business and economic forces, in the
national and international marketplace. The Global Internet data
communications industry offers some of the critical tools with which
corporations, entrepreneurs, research and development facilities, and
start-up firms can acquire information resources and empirical
expertise-immediately! This advantage is available regardless of an
organization's size, geographical location, or market coverage.
What is a Commercial Internet Provider?
Commercial Internet providers' computer networking services enable
organizations of every size to access and use computers located virtually
anywhere on the globe. Whether by dial-up or dedicated lines, organizations
can gain immediate use of electronic mail, news and information services,
and Internet access.
Commercial Internet providers offer the advantage of handling all types of
traffic (as long as it does not violate applicable laws) - without
requiring their users to route commercial traffic differently from
non-commercial traffic (research and education). While one division of a
company may have access to the Internet, other divisions of the company may
not and must route their traffic to another network. When using CIX member
networks, all company traffic goes over the same network without fear of
violating NSFNET or Internet acceptable use policies. Network managers need
maintain only one external network, which connects to a CIX member.
What is the CIX Association?
The Commercial Internet eXchange Association is a non-profit, 501(c)6,
trade association of Public Data Internetwork service providers promoting
and encouraging development of the public data communications
internetworking services industry in both national and international
What is the Role of the CIX?
The CIX provides a neutral forum to exchange ideas, information, and
experimental projects among suppliers of internetworking services. The CIX
broadens the base of national and international cooperation and
coordination among member networks. Together, the membership may develop
consensus positions on legislative and policy issues of mutual interest.
CIX enhances the growth and potential of this industry by encouraging
technical research and development for the mutual benefit of suppliers and
customers of data communications internetworking services.
The CIX assists its member networks in the establishment of, and adherence
to, operational, technical, and administrative policies and standards
necessary to ensure fair, open, and competitive operations and
communication among member networks. CIX policies are formulated by a
member-elected board of directors.
Who May Join the CIX?
Membership in the Commercial Internet eXchange is open to organizations
which offer TCP/IP or OSI public data internetworking services to the
general public in multiple geographic regions. Organizations or individuals
seeking Internet connections are urged to contact CIX members directly for
further information. Qualified public data Internet service providers
interested in exchanging commercial traffic with other providers on a peer
basis are most welcome and encouraged to become CIX Association members.
What Networks are Members of CIX?
o ANS CO+RE
o Demon INTERnet
o Hong Kong Supernet
o InterCon/AT&T Japan
o Nordic Carriers
o World dot Net
Additional networks are joining each month.
What Benefits Does the CIX Provide to Member Networks?
o CIX provides all member networks with a neutral forum
to develop consensus positions on legislative and policy issues.
o Member networks have a fundamental agreement to
interconnect with all other CIX members. There is no restriction on the
type of traffic that may be routed between member networks. The value of
this basic agreement to exchange all legitimate traffic will continue to
increase as the number of CIX member networks grow.
o There are no "settlements" nor any traffic-based
charges between CIX member networks. Each member network connects to all
other member networks directly or indirectly through the CIX router - at no
additional cost to member networks.
o CIX members may designate a representative to the
CIX technical committee and the policy committee. Member SIGs are being
planned to study relevant issues, such as proposing model legislation and
policies, and coordinating closely with national and international
networking organizations, government agencies, and relevant standards
o Periodic membership meetings will be held on topics
important to CIX members and pertinent to the CIX Association's mission.
o The CIX board of directors is elected by all CIX members.
Board members serve fixed terms based on a staggered rotation.
o All CIX member networks pay the same dues.
Benefit levels are the same for all members.
o The Commercial Internet eXchange Association serves
as a clearinghouse of information and resources for the CIX membership.
Why is the CIX Important to Network Users?
Users of CIX member networks gain access to all CIX member networks,
greatly increasing the correspondents, files, databases, and information
services available to them. Users gain a global reach in networking,
increasing the value of their network connection.
How do I contact the CIX?
3110 Fairview Park Drive, Suite 590
Falls Church, VA 22042 USA
Voice: +1 303 482 2150
Fax: +1 303 482 2884
Message: 29686777, Reply to: 29680025, 13 lines
Posted: 8:32am EST, Thu Jan 6/94
Subject: CIX Information
From: Jeff Ogden
Thanks for the info.
Is there any way to get a list of the networks that are only available
via the CIX? That is to say, those networks that MichNet cannot reach
by virtue of its NSFNET attachment? MichNet accepts commercial traffic
from outside of MichNet today without any additional charges - this
includes commercial traffic that may come over the NSFNET link. We also
connect commercial organizations within Michigan, but there is a commercial
surcharge to cover the extra fee we pay to ANS CO+RE in these cases. With
any luck all this will change, get simpler or go away next year.
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